Dear Mr Liebl,
The more I read the more confused I get. I would like to use the home use dermaroller for product penetration /anti-ageing) and the beauty mouse for cellulite (how many mm is this?)
How often would I use both. I have read that the home dermaroller must only be used 3 x per week, but some sites (with the copies) say you can use it daily?
Surely if its to penetrate the products, one should use it every time you apply them?
I was also considering going for peels in between CIT treatments, but I see you are not a fan of peels.
Also, how does one know when the needles are blunt?
How come there are so many copies on the market selling up to 2.5mm and suggesting one uses it one times per week!!
I would appreciate it if you could answer my concerns, so as to ensure I buy and use the correct ones.
Nathalie
Dear Nathalie,
Thank you for addressing these problems and your confusion to us. I am happy to answer your questions in detail.
Home Care Dermaroller and Beauty Mouse, both have 0.2 mm long needles. Both instruments are made for transdermal enhancement of active substances.
In order to get your skin used to micro-needling, start SLOW, only once or twice a week. Especially the skin of the thighs can have an initial histaminic reaction when the Beauty Mouse is used vigorously. The needles alone will stimulate your epidermis, good peptides can support this action. As we are talking about STIMULATION, it should not be overdone. Unfortunately many people believe, the more, the better. Stay with our advice, 2 or maximum 3 times a week and you’ll see positive results after about 4 weeks. Naturally you can use your products daily (of course with less penetration). A home care roller is sufficient for about 100 applications.
Copiers only copy! But in the end they simply do not know what they are talking about. They simply cannot know why we have chosen this roller diameter and not another one, why this needle separation angle, what kind of steel, end so on. If a copier would have at least some ethics and intelligence, he would not copy, he would invent something better.
Can you imagine how much it costs to build a manufacturing site for medical devices according to European law and to obtain a CE mark? How much one has to invest to be under constant government observation for quality insurance? Far over 200.000 Euro. A copier has to invest nothing. They buy simple steel pins from the needle industry and fool people pretending they have quality. Have you ever seen any scientific evidence from them? All they do is to steel our intellectual property!
What is a peel? You are reducing the thickness of your epidermis by acids and you are facing risks of skin damage if the peel is not done properly. As all scales, especially these of your stratum corneum, are subject to aging, due to a increased renewal cycle of your keratinocytes, they lose their transparency and the skin looks not as fresh as you wanted it to be (when you were in your Twenties). Acid removes these aged scales in several layers and your skin looks fresher – more transparent. On the long run the Dermaroller has a much better effect. It takes off the uppermost scales mechanically and by stimulating the renewal cycle of your epidermal cells, scales maintain their initial transparency – it is a simple as that. (Please refer to: http://www.dermaroller.de/us/epidermis-thickness/epidermis-thickness.html ).
As a manufacturer of medical devices we have to stick to the law (European Directive MDD 93/42 EEU) and classify our products. Only an initial gamma sterilisation can rest assure that a product is sterile! Once it is used, dispose it! Needling devices that penetrate the dermis are invasive instruments. If the plastic parts could stand the heat of an autoclave, the Dermaroller could be re-sterilised, BUT with the advert effect, that the needle tips become blunt – immediately! Ask your husband or friend to shave with a sterilised blade. I am sure he will ask for a divorce the same day.
Human dermis has an average thickness of 1.5 mm and new collagen forms only in the upper corium, about 0.5 mm below the epidermis. So why in this world to use 2.5 mm or even longer needles only to puncture the muscles underneath the skin? – it simply makes no sense. I only can assume all copiers must be men (mostly from Asia where all copies come from), and most of their funny thinking is: the longer, the better! But sensible needling has nothing to do with oversized needles, it is a matter of intelligence, and I am afraid, this is only given to a few in this world – at least in respect of microneedling.
Your last point: Home treatment with 2.5 mm long needles. If you like pain – do it! If you think, you are your own physician – do it! If you want to damage your skin and risk possible infections and permanent disfigurement – do it! If you are intelligent – go to a physician that is familiar with the real Collagen-Induction-Therapy (CIT).
Thank you for your attention and best regards
Horst Liebl